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It’s not the schools.
It’s our culture.
No amount of money will fix it.
I graduated with my PhD in Civil Engineering from Berkeley in 2002. My wife of 8 years left me 4 weeks later. Took me two years before I was even able to date again.
Nowadays, I rarely tell anyone I have a PhD, much less one from Berkeley in engineering.
It just doesn’t fit. Doesn’t look right. Since I refused to overleverage myself with ludicrously overpriced real estate, I still live in the same little apartment as graduate school. This is socially very incongruent.
Gets even better: career track for civil engineering is highly structured and doesn’t pay as well as one would think… after the divorce I lost all interest in the subject… I haven’t ever practiced civil engineering!
Change the culture. Change culture so that engineers, “geeks” and other socially undesirable people are honored for their work ethic, their intelligence their passion and their commitment to succeed. Don’t even have to raise the pay really, just stop the sneering.
Throwing money at this problem is easy. But it won’t work. (Actually, it would work if they took all that money and gave engineers a raise. Then kids would make their own decisions.)
If we need engineers so badly, why aren’t employers knocking on my door? Hint: we don’t… we have plenty engineers… they just want to be treated with respect and earn a wage commensurate with both education and responsibility.
Chill Bear,
I understand what you mean. I also graduated from Berkeley and I attended schools in America from the 4th grade. You have to be a “weirdo” to be a science nerd. America has a bad habit of worshiping vanity and idiocy, and I agree with you that throwing money at education probably won’t solve that.
Great article along with why money will help. We need the talent no matter where it comes from. Yes! It is a start and it has been an issue for a long time. However, professors, educators, or deans have not found a way to get their hands in the cookie jars.
When they do, things will definitely turn around.
Hang in there and Happy New Year to you!
I live in SV and I think this is blown out of proportion!
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What a great article and so on the mark. We finally have an administration in DC that values education and intelligence. The Bush administration did not – he was unable to communicate on any level so why would anyone aspire to learn when he was the example to the world. Obama speaks with eloquence and values education and languages. As an example to the nation, we couldn’t have picked a better man on so many levels.
California once was one of the two most highly rated education systems in the US and then came Ronald Regan as Governor and the State hasn’t been the same since. Add in the stupid system this state has with initiatives (Prop. 13 is the best example of that one), the largest constitution in the world, and a government that can’t govern and you can see why we are in the mess we are. When schools can’t get funds to operate and have to make draconian cuts who ends up being hurt the most? The students.
You are so right, we do not value education in the US, with some exceptions in the East and Mid-west where they are willing to tax themselves for good schools, California, the supposed leader of tech, is at the bottom for education support. A sad commentary about our values.
Don’t get me started on the immigration stuff, I could talk about that forever, and I am American born.
As an American, I passionately agree that this country has taken a severe turn for the worst with regard to its foreign labor policies. We are shooting ourselves in the foot by making it so difficult for others who are willing and able to work here. And I say this with regard to both skilled and unskilled labor. Unfortunately and even worse, this type of protectionism seems to becoming more popular.
Also, in terms of what you say about engineers not being cool in American society, I agree. In some ways that’s unfortunate, but in most ways it is not: scientists and engineers are annoying. They burp and fart in your face. They smell bad. They are unable to empathize with other human beings. They forget to clean one or more parts of their body. Any country where engineers are considered cool has something wrong with it, in my not so humble opinion.
Note that I am an (unemployed) engineer, and I do my best not to act like one. I would have to say that I am pretty goddamn successful and that’s why I get laid way more than most other people I know who are able to take the derivative of 2x.
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