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No, I’m not looking for a job, but for some reason recruiters are still bugging me almost every week. Personally, I’ve never found a job that was referred from a recruiter so I consider most of them to be a waste of time. Today a recruiter annoyed me just a bit more than usual so I figured I would write about it here.

For some reason, these pesky recruiters find a way to find my work phone number. Honestly I don’t even know what this number is because I never use this phone. I think some people within this company is unleashing this information and it is rather annoying. My manager also hates calls from recruiters so he told me that if anyone calls for him I should tell them to contact HR. Apparently these recruiters just call random numbers and hope to be directed to some hiring manager. Today’s recruiter was named Anne and she called my phone and asked for my manager. The conversation went something like this (I’m replacing my manager’s name with BLAHBLAH):

“Hello, is this BLAHBLAH?” Without giving away my manager’s full name, I could tell you that this woman was pronouncing it like an illiterate fool. My manager’s name ends with an I, and she says it like it ends with an A. This persisted during the entire phone call.

“No, he is not in the office today. Who am I speaking to?”

“Oh, this is Anne. May I have BLAHBLAH’s extension?”

“Hmm, are you from my company?” I was getting a little suspicious here.

“Oh, no, I’m just looking for BLAHBLAH.”

“Are you a recruiter?”

“Why, are you looking for a job?”

“No, I’m not, but are you a recruiter?”

She chuckled a bit and said, “yes, I am.”

“Okay, my manager said to just tell all recruiters to contact HR. I can give you the number for HR.”

“Oh, I know HR’s number, they wouldn’t talk to me because I place so many great candidates and make them look bad. Could I have BLAHBLAH’s number?” Wow, isn’t she cocky?

“Well, that isn’t my problem. I’m a bit busy so…”

“Are you an engineer on BLAHBLAH’s team?”

“Yes”

“How did you get the job?”

“I applied”

“Oh so you didn’t go through a recruiter?”

“No.”

“How did you find out about the job?”

“I looked, and a lot of my schoolmates work here.”

“Oh cool, what school did you go to?”

“Berkeley.”

“Oh haha Berkeley, we used to call them weenies.” Well I guess this idiot went to Stanford. A dozen or so of the core people at my company’s engineering team went to Berkeley, so I don’t think it is a very good move to insult my school when you are trying to recruit for my company.

“Um, look, I don’t have time for this…”

“You are in Palo Alto right? That’s right next to Stanford!”

“No, we are in San Mateo. We moved last year.”

“Oh, I don’t know much about San Mateo, but Palo Alto has my favorite sushi restaurant!” Umm..I don’t care about your favorite sushi restaurant. Just when I was about to say that, she said, “So what do you guys do? Java or C#?”

“Why don’t you go to our website and find out? The location of the company is also on the website. Look, I have to go okay.” I hung up here as I heard her voice stream out of the phone.

So, what did Anne do wrong?

compare prices viagra- When you are a recruiter you are supposed to know what your client wants. Obviously this woman didn’t even do enough research to call the right number and didn’t even know the location of the company.

compare prices viagra – Okay, I’m not a hiring manager, but if you are trying to get information out of someone you shouldn’t insult them by calling them a weenie. That’s just excessively stupid.

compare prices viagra- As I said, I don’t care where your favorite sushi restaurant is, and most other people probably don’t care either. The way she acted was just very unprofessional.

Now, Anne takes the cake for the most annoying recruiter I have ever spoken to, but the following are more characteristics of bad recruiters that annoy me.

compare prices viagra – A lot of the times recruiters send out emails to potential candidates saying that they’re recruiting for a position that pays a certain number, and then when you do interview or get an offer the number is much lower. That is a classic bait and switch and that has happened to people I know. I think that is borderline criminal.

compare prices viagra- I think a lot of recruiters search resumes for keywords, and never read the resume afterwards. So they end up spamming a bunch of people who do not qualify for the job they are recruiting for. It takes a bit of time and effort to screen resumes, but the results might be much better.

compare prices viagra – There are a couple recruiters I keep in contact with because they were professional enough to take no for an answer when I wasn’t looking. If the candidate or client company do not need the services, I think it’s best for a recruiter learn to back off politely instead of annoying the crap out of people.

compare prices viagra- Bad technical recruiters generally have no clue what their clients need or want in an engineer because they have very little knowledge about technology and thus do not understand the resumes and requisition orders. The best technical recruiters I have met were former engineers that know what to look for.

Anyway, I am ending this rant here. I’ve known people who had good experiences with cold calling recruiters, but most of them seem quite useless. Have you had a good experience with a random recruiter that wasn’t part of a company’s internal HR? I’d love to hear about it.

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compare prices viagraon 08.11.08 at 5:14 pm

We constantly get this crap at work. Normally they get hold of one name of linked in or something and then call the main switchboard.

The worst we had was recruiting firms calling the switchboard to be transferred through. Then they would claim to be Fedex and try to phish for names. “Oh this package has to be signed for by a member of the engineering team, is there anyone who might cover if you are at lunch when it’s delivered” Riiiiight!

compare prices viagraon 08.11.08 at 5:38 pm

I try to be nice to recruiters since I never know when I may need their services. For sure, it always helps when they do some research, though!

compare prices viagraon 08.11.08 at 10:02 pm

Thats all recruiters do. They send you to the wrong type of company, so that afterwards they can question you about who you met, and collect any extra numbers or contacts you made. Later they cold call those people and use you as a segway to build out their network of contacts.

By the way, sending them your resume as a .png pasted in to the word document format they insist on will piss them off to no end. They want to tweak your resume for their benefit.

compare prices viagraon 08.11.08 at 11:12 pm

As someone who’s worked in the recruiting field for a bit (doing research mind you, not making phone calls), I agree with you 100% that those who call into companies and blatantly misrepresent themselves, as in Tom’s FedEx example, give our entire profession a bad name. There are tactful ways to reach out to people without badgering them and wasting their time. A good recruiter is one who learns something about the company into which they are calling in case a scenario like you’ve described happens. I do strongly agree with bigwinner though, and I actually tweeted something similar tonight that it’s good form to be nice to recruiters because the job you’re not interested in today might be the job that you need tomorrow!

I do appreciate you sharing this situation though! These are things from which those of us who work in this profession can learn. Feedback whether positive or negative is always hepful.

compare prices viagraon 08.11.08 at 11:29 pm

I have met a couple good recruiters. One of them recruited a good coworker to one of the companies I worked for. After I left that company he asked for a referral from my ex-coworker and emailed me without being pushy. He just said to contact him in the future because I already know the quality of people he recruits. So even though I haven’t gotten any jobs from him I find him to be professional enough to contact sometime in the future.

compare prices viagraon 08.12.08 at 4:04 am

Wow, you have a horrible phone manner. I don’t understand people who can’t get off the phone, when they say they really want to. Just say goodbye and hang up? Don’t wait for a reply. Not too hard, is it?

compare prices viagraon 08.12.08 at 11:24 pm

She’s probably earning money by commission. She sounds too aggressive, maybe a call to labor department to inform that recruiter’s behavior would help.

Sam
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Nice post. I think you were way too nice to the recruiter and that conversation lasted too long. But then again, there are plenty of stellar recruiters making good money taking a similar approach as the recruiter who called you. After all, you could be working in a mixed environment developing desktop apps in C and web apps in Java, so who knows maybe she was curious.

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