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It’s easy to say that another generation is dumber than your own based on acedotal evidence. For example it’s easy to turn #8 around and say that the Boomers are dumber about money than Gen Y because there are Boomers out there that didn’t save for their retirement and expected Social Security to take care of them in their old age. Ask a Gen Yer about social security and they’ll most likely say that after reading several Internet sources they are pretty sure that they better start saving for their retirements because there won’t be any Social Security money left to support them when they retire.
I also think it is pretty dumb that 20-somethings are forced into paying for Social Security when there is no benefit for us to do so. I just received my Social Security statement recently and I’m kind of annoyed that I am paying so much money towards older people that didn’t bother to plan for their retirements.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
— attributed to Socrates by Plato
Each generation complains about the next. Now that I’m old, I get to complain about those damned ebullient teenagers too.
Regarding point 6, you might want to take a look at “Rainbow’s End” by Vernor Vinge. It explores what happens when the elderly try to adapt to a world where almost all information is available at the twitch of a finger or the blink of an eye.
Haha Alex you’re not even that old. Cool book. I’m reading it.
In the book “Everything bad is good for you” the author argues that today’s popular culture, including the comples tv shows and video games, is making people smarter. For more, see my post at
I do think today’s youth can tend to be a bit lazy sometimes but I think they are actually the smartest generation yet.
I knew a 20-something once who was:
Lazy
Lacked direction in life
Didn’t have much bandwidth for adversity in life
Dogmatic
Angry at the world
Didn’t appreciate his family
Was horrible with money
From my 34 year old vantage point, all of that seems silly and I dare say deplorable.
This 20-something was me.
Admin said: “I’m kind of annoyed that I am paying so much money towards older people that didn’t bother to plan for their retirements.”
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You aren’t paying money for “older people” that didn’t bother to plan for their retirements. Those older people paid in to a system for their entire lives, and certainly they have a right to expect back what was promised them—it is THEIR money, being repaid to them!
And, FYI, they were not told to plan for retirement when they were your age (although most did so anyway) , nor were they told that the ss system would ultimately fail.
I believe ignorance is just exposed more today. I don’t believe it’s more widespread. With increased exposure to media through TV’s and the Internet this generation may careless but it’s not dumber than his predecessors.
@nicole
The problem is that we will be paying into the same system for our entire lives and not get it back. I don’t think it’s bad luck either, because the government keeps on borrowing from the Social Security fund and depleting it. It is the older generation’s fault to create a system that’s not sustainable.
Admin said: “The problem is that we will be paying into the same system for our entire lives and not get it back.”
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If you will not be “getting it back”, that means that the system has failed. If the system fails, you will no longer be paying in to it. Your statement implies that it will not fail until you are ready to begin drawing social security.
The likelihood of it failing many years prior to your own retirement is great, so it is, imo, very unlikely that you will pay in to it and see no return.
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Admin also said: “It is the older generation’s fault to create a system that’s not sustainable.”
The SS system was initially signed into law by Franklin Roosevelt in 1935. Most of those living at that time are now gone. If they were alive then, they were children at the time. Ya can’t blame the living for creating the system—it makes no sense.
In addition, were you to become suddenly disabled tomorrow, social security would begin to pay you.
Denigrating an entire generation, whether they be old or young, is always a mistake.
I love this quote that I heard or read ages ago. I have no idea who said it or where it came from. But when I was 18 or so I thought it was brilliant…”If age brought wisdom there would be no old fools.”
ha!
I read the comments section of this article and someone also pointed out that most of the soldiers and people fighting for the USA in Iraq & Afghanistan are under the age of 30. Something to think about before one decides to criticize those of us in our 20s.
Funny, when I saw “Jaywalking” I thought it would be referring to that vulnerable “lost in my iPod headphones, while looking down texting a message, while drinking a scalding hot latte, while crossing a busy city street” condition that really IS jaywalking. Very often it is a 20-something causing cars to screech to a halt while all this other sensory stuff is filling their every orifice.
LOL, etc: The trouble with abbreviations and stuff is that sometimes other people don’t “speak” them, too, so it serves to separate younger hipsters from the rest of society… and that’s problematic.
In fact I think that’s the general jist of the concerns and complaints here about gen-y-ers, that they have been separated from common connective experiences and that it has an alienating effect on both sides.
I think the oldsters are concerned, if not freaked out, at how graphic sex and violence have become so commonplace with younger people that they have entirely lost their value and weight. Think for a moment of what people used to have to do to get laid – they got married!! OMG.
Now you can play a game all day and graphically murder hookers, cut off people’s heads with chainsaw, etc and it’s just like a normal experience, just doin’ it all the time, y’all. Those things used to be really truly inconceivable/shocking, for what it’s worth. Keep that well in mind when considering the intergenerational stuff. You guys are explicit sex and graphic violence pioneers! Oh boy!!
The reading/book thing: There is a sensory delight about books. You hold them. You smell them… the old books are deliciously musty. You can carry them, you can take books off to the farthest meadow and read, read, read, way longer than a battery on any gadget will last. That is the one thing I hate to see slipping away, the sensory experience of books.
Thanks for listening to this old fart, kids, I’m forty.
Great post, I am so tired of people telling me I’m mature for my age because I know so many twenty somethings like myself: responsible and thoughtful.
@Bonnie Story – I highly doubt that we are the explicit sex and graphic violence pioneers. Violence and sex have been recorded as far back as the Bible. The porn industry was thriving way before I was born, and wars were fought over many issues. Want to see a graphically violent movie? Check out Deer Hunter, an awesome movie about the Vietnam War made in 1978. That was 5 years before I was born. Want to see sex in a film in the 60s? Just flip to Midnight Cowboy. Oh and I see that you mentioned chainsaws and cutting off heads, are you talking about Jason in Friday the 13th? Well guess what, that movie came out in 1980 when this generation was just getting born! The hippies encouraged free love and actually many Gen-Ys are more religious than their parents and actually get married fairly early. I don’t think you can blame this generation for whatever evil that has always existed.
I remember reading that same Boston.com headline for the first time. I was like “WTF?” I can appreciate people have their opinions, but to use our most valuable tools (the internet and social networking) to date to broadcast the opinions of a man who is obviously clueless? That, I don’t agree with. In fact, the whole thing bothered me so much that I started reading into his comments that were also published in a live chat hosted later on, and guess what? He really is clueless.
I made note of some of the research he cited that brought him to all his ‘conclusions’. I found that I have access to many of the same sources, which I also reference in my blogs and accompanying research; , and . I think Mr. Bauerline conveniently left out some important facts, and if he didn’t do it “conveniently”, then I would challenge him to study his arguments more thoroughly so he’s at least got some ground to stand on. Throwing around the name “PEW Research” just for some instant credibility is not only distasteful, it’s annoying for those of us that link the name with research in a way that doesn’t contradict the context it was found in.
Also, I wonder if he realizes that most of the characteristics he’s complaining about are actually consistent throughout many teenagers in every generation.
The more I read into his accusations and comments, the more I realized, “this guy just wants some publicity”. And what better way to get attention than to stir up a fuss. Too bad he skewed his research – he might have been able to come up with a respectable opinion.
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I’m 15 and teenagers are not dumb! I have to use this article for a Adv. English Essay. Teenagers are simply trying to find their place in the crazy world. We’re more technological advanced so what? If the older people were our age with this technology they would be doing the same stuff we are! Also if were so “dumb” have you thought about the people who raised us…?
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